Comments on: My take on the Hall of Fame balloting http://www.thebaseballzealot.com/hall-of-fame/my-take-on-the-hall-of-fame-balloting Looking at the Game of Baseball from all ends of the Spectrum Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:15:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Baseball Zealot http://www.thebaseballzealot.com/hall-of-fame/my-take-on-the-hall-of-fame-balloting/comment-page-1#comment-2666 The Baseball Zealot Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:03:48 +0000 http://www.thebaseballzealot.com/hall-of-fame/my-take-on-the-hall-of-fame-balloting#comment-2666 re BBWAA writers: no, i'm not of the ilk that feel if a few writers make some questionable decisions on the HOF, that means "we should ban those writers from ever voting again" or that means "the BBWAA system is broken". I hear those arguments every year. Some of these arguments I hear regarding writers who vote for questionable players and some for writers who don't for players that are obvious choices (see Cal Ripken). Those fans just need to relax and understand that out of 400+ votes, there will be some "crazy" ones out there. they are fun to talk about though. :) As for Baines, he probably belongs in the Hall of Very Good. re BBWAA writers:

no, i’m not of the ilk that feel if a few writers make some questionable decisions on the HOF, that means “we should ban those writers from ever voting again” or that means “the BBWAA system is broken”. I hear those arguments every year.

Some of these arguments I hear regarding writers who vote for questionable players and some for writers who don’t for players that are obvious choices (see Cal Ripken).

Those fans just need to relax and understand that out of 400+ votes, there will be some “crazy” ones out there.

they are fun to talk about though. :)

As for Baines, he probably belongs in the Hall of Very Good.

]]> By: DonS. http://www.thebaseballzealot.com/hall-of-fame/my-take-on-the-hall-of-fame-balloting/comment-page-1#comment-2665 DonS. Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:20:10 +0000 http://www.thebaseballzealot.com/hall-of-fame/my-take-on-the-hall-of-fame-balloting#comment-2665 1. Bert Blyleven. Maybe. I think he may be hurt by the "not a good teammate" reputation. I guarantee that he would never make the Hall in a poll of his former mates. The nickname "Cry-leven" had basis in his behavior. And in his reaction to the annual Hall of Fame snub. Statistically, other than strikeouts (his 287-250 career W-L is not good), I think he's a little light. Like Dawson, he is close. But for all the strikeouts, he only led the league once. He never led the league in ERA or wins. He only made 2 All-Star games and only won 20 games once. I think that they will "put him in to shut him up." Maybe next year. 2. Harold Baines. I think Harold Baines is Chili Davis. Or maybe "like Dwight Evans, except he couldn't field." 3. The Crazy Votes. Not a problem for me. These votes are used every year to argue that the choice should be taken away from the writers (I don't think that's where The Zealot was going). But a few people vote for the David Duke's of the world every Presidential election, and nobody think the vote should be taken away from the citizenry. I wonder who everybody on this board would choose as "My Crazy Vote." Mine are Curt Flood & Roger Maris, both ineligible. 4. Final Comment: I think it's time to "move on" and put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame. Nothing better than Baseball Talk on a sub-zero degree morning. Comments? 1. Bert Blyleven. Maybe. I think he may be hurt by the “not a good teammate” reputation. I guarantee that he would never make the Hall in a poll of his former mates. The nickname “Cry-leven” had basis in his behavior. And in his reaction to the annual Hall of Fame snub.

Statistically, other than strikeouts (his 287-250 career W-L is not good), I think he’s a little light. Like Dawson, he is close. But for all the strikeouts, he only led the league once. He never led the league in ERA or wins. He only made 2 All-Star games and only won 20 games once.

I think that they will “put him in to shut him up.” Maybe next year.

2. Harold Baines. I think Harold Baines is Chili Davis. Or maybe “like Dwight Evans, except he couldn’t field.”

3. The Crazy Votes. Not a problem for me. These votes are used every year to argue that the choice should be taken away from the writers (I don’t think that’s where The Zealot was going). But a few people vote for the David Duke’s of the world every Presidential election, and nobody think the vote should be taken away from the citizenry.

I wonder who everybody on this board would choose as “My Crazy Vote.” Mine are Curt Flood & Roger Maris, both ineligible.

4. Final Comment: I think it’s time to “move on” and put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame.

Nothing better than Baseball Talk on a sub-zero degree morning.

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